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#1 New info from Stateline
low22

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01/08/2012 12:24 PM

Taken from Facebook:


A tentative schedule is complete but until all of the contracts with traveliing groups that can affect the schedule are signed it cannot be released. Although I do not think that while we wait for these contracts it will change our schedule it is very important that we have these completed. As far as fees and a membership meeting. It is our plan to have a meeting mid February. We have been in negotiations with potential sanctionings and sponsors that could have a direct affect on membership and opportunities for all of the racers at State Line Speedway. Until there is a more difintive answer it is best to just wait and not start speculations. We apologize if this is taking time but I was once told that "Good things come to those who wait". Yes, it is true that in the past State Line Speedways schedules and rules were never released until the membership meeting in February and it was our plans to have this all completed sooner but unfortunately it has taken time and we did not want to put out information that would then be changed. **The rules are for the most part complete and what I can say is that if you raced last year your car will be legal once again this year. Rule changes "if any" are more clarifications than changes to create more equal competition. Few changes have been made to our Wednesday night classes. It is my anticipation that all of our questions will be able to be answered this week and we will be able release our schedule and rules. It may be just a bit longer on our membership information. Due to the fact that our economy is still struggling and to help our racers we have to look at every option to assist them in saving tham as much money as possible to help them go racing. This is a commitment that our company made and what we are trying to accomplish. Sometimes these evaluations take longer than we hope. Please be patient. - Randy

**Looks like the rules will stay the same, but the faster cars will be slowed down. Kinda like what happened in the RR Pro's last season.
 
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montanasracefan

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01/08/2012 6:48 PM

Am I the only one who can't find any useful information in this thread? Please release the tentative schedule! Tentative means it can be changed. No need for this line of ....
 
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NovaKid

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01/08/2012 7:32 PM

Lol all we can hope for is that that get stuff out soon
 
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cvracer5

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01/08/2012 8:13 PM

The faster cars will be slowed down? Is that statelines version of redistribution of Speed??? Must be a fan of oboma lol
 
#5 Re:
jughead

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01/08/2012 8:14 PM

Quote posted by montanasracefan:Am I the only one who can't find any useful information in this thread? Please release the tentative schedule! Tentative means it can be changed. No need for this line of ....

LOL no was looking for some NEW NEW
Big GrinBig Grin
 
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jughead

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01/08/2012 8:21 PM

Quote posted by cvracer5:The faster cars will be slowed down? Is that statelines version of redistribution of Speed??? Must be a fan of oboma lol

LOL i was thinking the same Big Grin
Maybe we can vote him out also ilmao
 
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302_Ford

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01/08/2012 9:31 PM

Why slow the faster cars down? unless they illegal, let the competitors figure it out. Not the tracks job to slow down the fast guys, its the slow guys job to do their homework to get faster and be one of the fast guys.
 
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Verndog99

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01/08/2012 10:56 PM

Quote posted by 302_Ford:Why slow the faster cars down? unless they illegal, let the competitors figure it out. Not the tracks job to slow down the fast guys, its the slow guys job to do their homework to get faster and be one of the fast guys.
I agree 100% with you there 302 Ford.I didn't have a fast car when I started racing back in 2003.But,I did my homework and it made me a top contender in the class I race in now.Big Grin
 
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Superlatemodel

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01/09/2012 2:09 AM

My spelling sucks but here goes...."Choreographed Racing" you get to win this week and jim bob gets to win next week! ha ha ha

Hey jo beth do you want to go watch the races this week?

Nope....jim bob won last week and his turn doesn't come back up for 5 more weeks!!

Spread the wealth my ass!!!
Racers need to figure it out....put the time in it and it will pay off. I also agree 100% with Josh (302_Ford)

 
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Winky

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01/09/2012 3:51 AM

faster cars aren't allowed at SLS..that's what happened to b2p..
can you imagine NASCAR telling drivers to slow down!! isn't that's
racing is suppossed to be?? what a joke!!!
 
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Punisher

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01/09/2012 4:29 AM

Hold it here now I can say who can win and who can't win and all my ass kissing buddys are all that will ever win because I'm the big guy that runs the show and you all are going to do what I want!
 
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low22

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01/09/2012 4:53 AM

So all the complaining about rules and the enforcing of them last year that brought almost every class to under 10 cars will just continue in 2012? If you guys actually trailered violators after the "1 week grace" instead of weekly empty threats you'd still have a car count. The 'breakout' was a joke, everyone just sandbagged. Then they ran a second faster in the main with no punishment. The one time you did enforce it was against a very honest racer who timed in a 17.47 ( 17.50 breakout ), announced to the crowd that he got fast time, then announced that he 'cheated' and he was punished... while several in the class were in the 16's during the main. That was the last straw for me and several of my friends.

Look at the drivers that quit racing there, most of those cars are 100% legal but can't compete. We were told to "fix this" and "fix that" and brought our cars out the next week just to get beat, again, by the cars that still haven't fixed anything.

Car count has nothing to do with the economy either. SCR has no problem filling their classes up, mostly with drivers that are sick of the loose tech. It's really not about the payout because most of us LOVE racing at SLS.
 
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mmmmm1

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01/09/2012 5:46 AM

Quote posted by low22:So all the complaining about rules and the enforcing of them last year that brought almost every class to under 10 cars will just continue in 2012? If you guys actually trailered violators after the "1 week grace" instead of weekly empty threats you'd still have a car count. The 'breakout' was a joke, everyone just sandbagged. Then they ran a second faster in the main with no punishment. The one time you did enforce it was against a very honest racer who timed in a 17.47 ( 17.50 breakout ), announced to the crowd that he got fast time, then announced that he 'cheated' and he was punished... while several in the class were in the 16's during the main. That was the last straw for me and several of my friends.

Look at the drivers that quit racing there, most of those cars are 100% legal but can't compete. We were told to "fix this" and "fix that" and brought our cars out the next week just to get beat, again, by the cars that still haven't fixed anything.

Car count has nothing to do with the economy either. SCR has no problem filling their classes up, mostly with drivers that are sick of the loose tech. It's really not about the payout because most of us LOVE racing at SLS.


not familiar with state lines breakout rule could some one please explain it?
 
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low22

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01/09/2012 6:00 AM

It was in the Roadrunner ( hornet ) class. Used to be 50+ cars in the class so to try and make it fair they split us by time. The 'slower' group couldn't run faster than 17.50 without having to move into the faster group. And the faster couldn't be quicker than 16.50 without having to move into the fevers.

They left the slower group as the Roadrunners, and called the faster cars Roadrunner Pro's.

The idea of moving up was then thrown out, considering the changes to the car you'd have to make. So they said you get one breakout, the next one would be loss of points and a third would be sent home without racing. Most of the cars sandbagged in qualifying, dashes and heats to keep from getting caught, but ran wide open in the mains. Usually the top 5 were clearly breaking out.

All the while not teching very well and what started with 30 cars in the RR's and 20 in the Pros, ended with 12 in the RR's and 7 in the Pro's.
 
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popeye12

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01/09/2012 6:17 AM

Quote posted by 302_Ford:Why slow the faster cars down? unless they illegal, let the competitors figure it out. Not the tracks job to slow down the fast guys, its the slow guys job to do their homework to get faster and be one of the fast guys.

Isn't that what MRP did with your race car a couple of years ago? Lessor? Bill Mitchell? Just askin.
 
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low22

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01/09/2012 6:26 AM

Roadrunner drama aside, I'm real curious what's gonna happen with the stingers. If all goes well it could get me back on that track. There was so much sh*t to swim in last year that they need something real good to bring back the fun.
 
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crewchief28f4

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01/09/2012 6:43 AM

Low 22 You forgot the other time when they announced there would be no break out rule. then cought several cars that broke out. Then lowered the break out to 17.3 which allowed those cars to again be legal.Confused
 
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low22

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01/09/2012 6:57 AM

Thanks for reminding me Grin Another case of trying to please everyone by not enforcing rules.

That was after we quit that class, but I did hear from several drivers that night about how unfair it was, and if I remember correctly after the 17.30 was decided the fast time that night was a 17.22 lmao... which I timed as 16.8ish during the main.
 
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low22

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01/09/2012 7:00 AM

And I know I wasn't the only roadrunner driver in the stands timing cars. We all were waiting to see baggers black flagged or sent home packing. No such luck. I did see a couple run with the roadrunners then swap tires and compete with the fevers too. From a class with 18 second cars, to one with 15 second cars... and still competeConfused

 
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RacerX1622

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01/09/2012 12:43 PM

Just put a restrictor plate on every car in every class.
Then you the track doesn't have to do anything....
Annoyed
 
#21  
scott-s

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01/09/2012 1:03 PM

Everything has to run bone-stock AMC straight-six 232's...problem solved.Big Grin
 
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givemedrums83

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01/09/2012 1:32 PM

I look forward to much more racing at Stateline and at SCR. It is unfortunate that too many promises were made and not help up. Stateline had a point that if they enforced the rules they would lose cars. It got out of hand for far too long. But when new cars came in and the problems then were not corrected, it became unfair. To those who have to cheat to win, enjoy it. I race for me and my family enjoys it. If they know you cheated and beat me, they still think I won. Unfortunately it's not about the slow cars getting faster anymore. To be faster, you have to cheat. The breakout rule was a GREAT idea, but it was never enforced. However having a breakout rule means anyone can run whatever they want as long as the stay under time. ...that still doesn't solve anything. The simplest rule is roadrunners must have dashes, even that isn't enforced. Hopefully this year is a good turn around, but saying cars that were legal in 2011 are still legal this year already means trouble.
 
#23 Re:
sprint3

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01/09/2012 3:20 PM

I don't think you are going to have to worry about what randy has to say.....
 
#24  
lml29

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01/09/2012 3:47 PM

Do tell Mike!
 
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302_Ford

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01/09/2012 4:03 PM

Yes, that is what happened at mrp. They basically wrote a new rule book to outdate our limited cars. We were running smaller CID motors w/ a weight break, or we could run a box stock holley 650 to offset the 50 CID advantage. When they pulled our weight break, and Carb options off the table. We asked them what they were going to do if we just built a 347, which is legal. They replied "We will find some way to slow you down." Keep in mind we were never violating any rules, and were never found to be illegal. Similar to both Alex's and Bill's situation. Everybody deserves to win... NOT!!!
 
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