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#1 lucas modified tour
vinces

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12/26/2007 1:29 PM

I WOULD LIKE TO NOW WHAT ARE THE COMMENTS ON THIS OPEN WHEEL SERIES, IS IT AN EXPENSIVE SERIES, WHAT IS THE COMPETTION LEVEL, WHAT TYPES OF TRACKS & WHAT ARE THE TOUR EVENTS FOR 2008.

I THABK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS, GREAT SITE & VERY HELPFUL !!!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL - VINCESmile
 
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terry222

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12/26/2007 2:31 PM

Hi , are you going to be joining the series next year ???? Its a highly competitive series to be honest , it is a little costly but the main reasons of the expense are being dealt with , there coming out with a shock rule for the future that will tame the cost and get rid of the QA1's and rebuildable shocks that are getting cheated up . Other than that the series is not really that expensive , I have it planned out that with travel expenses and all its going to cost around 1,000 a race with a new set of tires every race . You have to race on the tires you qualify on , no ratcheting lockers . The rules are at i10speedway.com if youd like to look at them .

They will be racing at Vegas , Tucson , Blythe, Havasu and OSS in 2008 . If you have anymore questions you can e-mail me , racefan222@aol.com
 
#3 modified tour
vinces

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12/27/2007 8:33 AM

terry222,

Thank you for your information, yes we want to be part of the tour series next year. I am interested in knowing what this shock rule will be & when will it be in effect.


thank you vince!
 
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terry222

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12/27/2007 8:59 AM

I talked to greg a couple weeks ago , he said there trying to put it in place this next year but it wont be mandatory till probably the following season , he's been talking to the people at afco and said he still had another meeting with them to work out more details . But he wants to get away from the rebuildable shocks and there may be an insentive for drivers using the afco shocks this season with money going to the top 3 drivers or so on the afco shock they decide to use .

He wants to get away from the rebuildable revalveavle shocks because there getting out of hand , 1 guy was on the pole for the b-main one race and on the pole for the a-main the next race cause he went and got 400 a dollar a piece shocks built by Steve Teets .

Its sad , people are taking these 100-150 dollar shocks and pretty much making them into a penske and selling them for 400 a piece .

If you need any more info on the series give Greg Scheidecker a call , he's the guy running the series and he's a very honest guy and knows what he's doing call 1-800-342-2512 and ask for him .
 
#5 lucas modified tour
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12/27/2007 9:50 AM

terry222 cant find 08 rules on site,do you know what they decided about powerglides for 08 season? my 2cents on the shock deal is you dont need custom built shocks to be fast. you need balance in your set-up and a driver who won't run the tires off the thing in the first 25 laps. You take the top 3 or 4 guys and make them run autozone shocks and they will still be the top 3 or 4 guys. anyways if you have any new info on dates and tracks please let me know thanks Jerry
 
#6 Re:Shocks
mcraceprod

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12/27/2007 10:00 AM

Terry , you make a very good point about the shocks, but Steve is just working within the rules. I think the $400.00 dollar mark is way to high also, but the ability to revalve or rebuild is for the racer to save money by not having a box of 20 shocks @ 75.00 a piece. I build/revalve/ and dyno with sheet. If you buy a QA1 50 series its $109.00 rebuild kit $144.00 $580.00 for four shocks. So why not put a claim rule on the shocks of say $150.00 maybe it will stop the $400.00 stuff. Just my 2cents
TimSmile
 
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mikejones

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12/27/2007 11:13 AM

why not a rule of a $200 limit like what quite a few touring LM series do.
 
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terry222

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12/27/2007 12:15 PM

They dont have the 08 rules out yet , but the rules for 07 will be pretty much the same with the 08 rules with the exception of the possible shock rule . As far as I know theres no rule against a powerglide or any discussion going on there .... really dont know so dont quote me but I do know people have used them , dont think its an issue . Ive gathered some dates just from seeing tracks schedules released ....

Apr. 12th Blythe
May 3rd Havasu
May 17th Vegas
July 12th OSS
Aug. 16th OSS

Than there is suppose to be a race in Tucson and of course there will be a couple more races each at Blythe and Havasu at the end of the year .

I agree with you guys , I want to be able to run QA1's and valve them how I want to , but at the same time , theres alot of fudging going on inside those shocks by the shock experts that make them pretty much a penske for lack of a better word . A shock claim rule would be awesome , greg told me he's trying to stay away from that though cause he hates having claim rules , like I said he's still trying to decide and who knows maybe he'll end up using a claim rule .

Personally , if it were me .... Id hand out shocks at each race , start of the year you pay xxx amount of dollars for your set of shocks , at the end of the night you turn in your shocks , if you damage one you have to buy a new one . That way its really no money out of the series pocket cause the drivers are actually buying the shocks and your taking that scenario out of the equation when it comes to the fast cars .
 
#9 my opinion
vinces

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12/27/2007 12:15 PM

I AGREE PUT A DOLLAR FIGURE ON THE SHOCKS - CLAIM RULE GREAT IDEA. YOU MENTIONED STEVE TEETS, I ATTENDED A RACE IN CA. & NOTICED THAT THE LUCAS MODIFIED WAS VERY FAST & CONSISTENT LAP AFTER LAP.

THE DRIVER IS VERY GOOD AS WELL.

DO YOU HAVE TO BUY 4 TIRES EVERY RACE TO MAKE THE MAIN EVENT????

THANK YOU VINCE, YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT SERIES & EXCELLENT DRIVERS A LOT OF OTHER SERIES COULD LEARN FROM YOU ALL !!!Smile
 
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terry222

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12/27/2007 12:25 PM

You dont have to buy 4 tires every race to make the main event , theres plenty of people in the a-main on limited budgets , if I can afford to however Im buying 4 a race . Now here's another rule Id like to see in place and thats a 2 tire a race rule , anything to make racing more affordable is ok in my book .
 
#11 lucas modified tour
ellis9

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12/27/2007 1:40 PM

Terry 222 , Thanks for info. If anyone with automatic that is planning on running in 08 you might want to look into this a little more . 2007 rules say no automatics in 2008 season in the drivetrain section! That is one reason why I put my car away for awhile, didnt make any sense to me.
 
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terry222

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12/27/2007 1:42 PM

Hmmm , thanks for pointing that out , never paid much attention to it I guess since I run a standard . Dont know why they would not allow an automatic .
 
#13 ellis9
vinces

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12/27/2007 1:59 PM

are you the racer from lake havasu, with an ellis modified if so i would like to speak with you.
Please leave details on how I my contact you!

thank you, vincesSmile
 
#14 Re:
536461

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12/27/2007 3:56 PM

why should you have to pay 140 dollars for a shitty shock when you can buy the bilstien for 160 dollars ?Confused
 
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dck24

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12/27/2007 7:24 PM

Automatics are not legal at this point and the reason being because Greg feels that is where traction control can be "hidden". So far as I know that has not changed for 08. THere are driver from No. Cal. who would like to race the series but have automatics and can't.

Everyone with a concern or desire for automatics to be allowed should waste no time in contacting Greg. The ruiles have not been finalized, but it will nnot be long before that is done.
 
#16 Vinces
ellis9

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12/28/2007 6:29 AM

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#17 Re:
TSRanimal

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12/29/2007 9:52 AM

Quote posted by terry222:Now here's another rule Id like to see in place and thats a 2 tire a race rule , anything to make racing more affordable is ok in my book .


While this sounds like an excellent idea, there's absolutely no way to enforce it. With all the different tracks on the schedule, there's just too many places you can buy the tires used for this series, thus there's no way to account for all the tires sold.....although I wish it could happen too....
 
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TSRanimal

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01/04/2008 7:30 PM

Quote posted by dck24:Automatics are not legal at this point and the reason being because Greg feels that is where traction control can be "hidden". So far as I know that has not changed for 08. THere are driver from No. Cal. who would like to race the series but have automatics and can't.

Everyone with a concern or desire for automatics to be allowed should waste no time in contacting Greg. The ruiles have not been finalized, but it will not be long before that is done.


I just read on the I-10 Speedway website that automatics will be legal in '08.......
 
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dck24

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01/04/2008 8:53 PM

beat me to the punch, you are right. I was over at Bill Rozhons and asked him about the automatics and he had stated that are now legal, just did not get back on here to relay the news
 
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dck24

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01/04/2008 9:00 PM

also, there is a news brief on the I-10 website about the 2008 season. Schedule will be released January 15th
 
#21 Lucas
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01/04/2008 10:05 PM

Don't get too proud of yourself boys. You will find out how fast the cars are in the series when Scott Winters comes down to your neck of the woods.
 
#22  
terry222

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01/05/2008 4:06 AM

Im curious to see what the competition is going to be like this year . Dean Kuhn & Jason Patisons cars are for sale and heard Danny Gay's car is for sale as well . Wonder what some of the other guy's plans are for this season .
 
#23 Re:
dck24

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01/05/2008 9:46 AM

Competition will still be very strong even with the departure of some of the "top" names. The fields from last season were very stout through the Top 20 cars. Even though there maybe some racers not returning, there are others planning to run for the first time which will keep the car counts steady.

I think the first few shows will have car counts greater than last season for the same tracks (Blythe and Havasu). By not making big changes to the rules, this will help to keep cars. A series will always "lose" cars as the series goes through a season due to the almighty dollar but I would expect 30+ cars at each event.

 
#24 TRP
TSRanimal

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01/11/2008 1:51 PM

Tucson Raceway Park has been added to the schedule on June 14th, with a 50-lap practice race on the 13th........
 
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TSRanimal

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01/18/2008 8:53 PM

Here's the official 2008 schedule from the I-10 Speedway website:

April 12 Blythe I-10 Speedway
May 3 Havasu Havasu 95 Speedway
May 17 Las Vegas Bull Ring Las Vegas Motor Speedway
June 14 Tucson Tucson Raceway Park
July 12 San Bernardino Orange Show Speedway
August 16 San Bernardino Orange Show Speedway
September 20 Havasu Havasu 95 Speedway
October 4 Havasu Havasu 95 Speedway
October 18 Blythe I-10 Speedway
November 8 Blythe I-10 Speedway
 
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