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soft99

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06/11/2006 8:01 AM

what is a good softner for goodyear and how to use do you roll or warp thanks for the help !!!!!!ConfusedCool
 
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orangeone

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06/13/2006 12:49 PM

On the cheap side of prep, you can mix (paint thinner)tuolene and xylene 50/50. It has a strong smell but it works very well.Put 6 onces in the tires and 3 quarts on the out side and wrap them up until race time.It is good for atleast 3 to 5 tenths!Wink
 
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brakelessbrewer

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06/28/2006 8:11 AM

Acetone and grip or trackclaw mixed 50/50. Rolled or wrapped or both. And this might sound funny but we cut up a racing tire and let the parts soak in different softeners and compared them to find what worked and didn't work.



BrakelessBrewerSmile
 
#4  
mike112

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06/28/2006 9:57 AM

HMS is the best for Goodyears.
 
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rivercityoutlaw

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07/11/2006 11:53 AM

When you use the softener does is make the tire look any difference as far as wear when you come off the track. And the smell of the softener, is that detectable by just walking by the tire or do you have to release the air to smell it?????
 
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spottermagic

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07/11/2006 2:44 PM

Looking to cheat it sounds like rivercityoutlaw. More power to ya. But most tracks have very stiff penalties if they do check and you are busted.
 
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minisuperdave

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07/11/2006 5:31 PM

Soaking your tires will only make them faster (3-4/10ths) for about 10 laps - This is ok for qualifying but if you have to run heat races the tires are back to normal by the main. I would only scuff them 1 lap then take them off for qualifying. Since most tracks have an invert you are just starting farther back anyway. after about 10 laps the tires will be the same as if you didn't soak them.
 
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rivercityoutlaw

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07/11/2006 5:32 PM

Just trying to get more races out of my tires. 6 races on a set of tires doesnt seem like cheatin to me.
 
#9  
mike112

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07/12/2006 9:25 AM

HMS softener lasts for 75 laps or more. It penetrates deeper into the tire than Xylene or any homemade concoction. Try it, you will be impressed.
 
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spottermagic

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07/12/2006 11:05 AM

I am all for legalizing tire soacking at every track. Unfortunatly that isnt the case and tracks have rules, most of which dont allow tires to be soaked. Like I said, more pwer to ya, go for it. Just dont get caught. We get 4 races out of our tires, no tire soak and I think that is plenty.
Mike112, if you soak your tires does it make them last longer? specifically two races longer? I have no experiance with any of the stuff so I am curious.
 
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mike112

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07/12/2006 3:50 PM

You will get better performance out of used tires after soaking. Past experience shows that about 4-5 nights is all a tire (10" Goodyear slick) has in it, but if you soak them, the performance of the tire will not fall off as fast as a non-soaked tire. It all depends on how many heat cycles you put the tire thru. Every heat cycle will harden the tire. Af ter a given night of racing, you should expect to see about a 10-point increase in hardness in your right side tires. After a soak w/ HMS, you will see a 10-15 point decrease in hardness.
 
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ldl

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07/12/2006 7:25 PM

What is HMS ??
 
#13  
mike112

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07/13/2006 7:26 AM

hmstire.com
I am a dealer; TGS Motorsports.
 
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spottermagic

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07/13/2006 7:59 AM

thanks for the info mike
 
#15 Re:
RACEMAN78

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07/21/2006 10:35 AM

Quote posted by mike112:hmstire.com
I am a dealer; TGS Motorsports.


mike112-that link doesn't bring up anything.Confused
 
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RACEMAN78

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07/21/2006 10:38 AM

Quote posted by RACEMAN78:Quote posted by mike112:hmstire.com
I am a dealer; TGS Motorsports.


mike112-that link doesn't bring up anything.Confused


Should be www.hmstires.com

MikeBig Grin
 
#17  
NWGuy

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07/22/2006 5:03 PM

Tire soaking is always illegal at any track that makes money off of the sales of tires to the racer. Even if you don't buy your tires directly from the track. Usually the promoter has an agreement that he makes $ X per tire sold. He wants you to spend $400 per week on tires, not $60 on softener.
 
#18 Re:
ALLBLUE

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08/15/2006 5:25 PM

used soaks are not as fast as new stickers, and their is not way someone is running 4-6 weeks on a set of tires and even being close to the guys buying new tires every race! IMHO
 
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johnpartridge

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08/22/2006 10:34 AM

I will take the stickers every time!!
Mike, can you smell this stuff or better yet can a DOG smell it?

jp
 
#20 Re:
74racer

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05/14/2007 5:08 PM

Quote posted by mike112:hmstire.com
I am a dealer; TGS Motorsports.


Mike how can I get a hold of you?
 
#21 Re:
mike112

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05/15/2007 7:33 AM

#719-232-4951
 
#22 Re:
RACEMAN78

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05/30/2007 9:40 AM

mike112

Are you in the Springs?
 
#23  
mike112

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05/30/2007 9:49 AM

yes
 
#24 Re:
traction

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06/02/2007 4:22 PM

What is the best tire softner out there for Qualifying?
 
#25 Re:
wallracing

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06/07/2011 3:47 PM

I am a tire tech at my local race track and they just opened out rules on tire softening. Yes you can see tire wear when you come off the track and yes you can smell the softner on the tires if you smell them. I can always tell who is doping there tires when I change them.
 
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